mitt romney is a good debater, the president is a good debater. there will be no knockout punch but they'll have to be solid in order to move the ball down the field. >> we saw a clip in the previous segment from fox over the weekend with ryan and the big issue was the details on the tax plan. how much more in terms of details do you expect we'll learn from romney and by the way, are we going to learn any more details in terms of what president obama's planning to do? i'll go to you, morris, with that first in. >> we don't have any details on what the challenger is going to do. governor romney said he'll create 12 million jobs and the president has laid out a vision, put a marker in the ground and does have a track record to run on if you look at what he's been able to do in four years in moving us from the worst economy, almost a depression to where we are now in a recovery moving in the right direction. the devil will be in the details and the governor just can't sit there and say i'll create 12 million new jobs, trust me. >> terry, do you come